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So I've been thinking about LiveJournal, and about data backups.

And, for those familiar with the company, about Photopoint.



For those unfamiliar with Photopoint, here's the story in short: About ... oh, probably a year ago now, they were among the first of the websites that offered free online photo hosting. And, being among the first, they were also one of the biggest. Many of my friends in the online model-car community used them to host significant collections of photos of cars (both model and real), and it was a big useful thing. Then, one day, the servers were down. They came up for a little bit, and went down again. Rumors wandered around that the corporate offices were empty and dark; this was quickly collaborated by photos. Shortly thereafter, they declared bankruptcy. Many of my friends didn't have backups of their photos, and hadn't had a chance to make copies because the collapse hit largely without warning....

LiveJournal is, in the community of people I know that use it, starting to become even more of a repository of important and meaningful information.

If I asked you all who had backups of your posts, I doubt I'd get even a single hand raised.

This is something I find distressing -- well, not so much that you don't, but that I don't. I find this distressing in part because I'm a hardcore information packrat, but partly because that there are legitimate reasons that I'd be sad to lose all of this data.

I think that what I want is an offline LiveJournal viewer / archiver. This shouldn't be a technically difficult thing to create -- in fact, there seems to be such a thing, to some extent, for Mac OS/X. Sigh; I have a PC. But what I really want is a daemon to put on my Linux box that will update its copies (including the comments, of course!) 24/7.

Does anyone know of such a program, other than the OS/X one? Or, for that matter, have suggestions of other sorts for this?

- Brooks

Date: 2002-11-15 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zorbathut.livejournal.com
There's an "export entries" page at http://www.livejournal.com/export.bml - it only does a month at a time, but it wouldn't be hard to set up a script to do the most recent month every day or so. I don't know of anything automated, but if you could find a reasonably good coder (or are one) it probably wouldn't be tough to set up.

It'd be dead-easy on a Linux box, but a little trickier on Windows.

Well. . .

Date: 2002-11-15 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzanne.livejournal.com
According to the FAQ they have an export thingy. http://www.livejournal.com/export.bml

*kiss*

Date: 2002-11-16 04:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gingicat
I have backups of my posts, and of all the comments that people have replied to. So there. :b

Date: 2002-11-16 11:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
I think LJ officials have said things at various times about not really wanting people to be able to download LJ the way they download, say, Usenet news. But that mostly applies to reading friends lists. If you wrote something to do it, or instigated writing something to do it, I don't think they'd have a problem with it.

And I use the exporter regularly. I'm very, very, very big on backups.

Date: 2002-11-16 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leback.livejournal.com
It seems like it ought to be possible to write something to grab the comments too. For the most part it would be pretty straightforward; the only catch that occurs to me is that you'd want it to do something clever to notice when old entries get new comments.

/me wanders off, scratching head...

Date: 2002-11-16 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zorbathut.livejournal.com
It definitely should be, but last time I checked, the client interface didn't support it. You'd have to grab webpages manually and parse them. I mean, ick. >_<

But it *should* be possible.

I oughta write up a patch and send it in for them :P
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