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[personal profile] brooksmoses
So, Tumblr has started taking down icons with nipples sold itself to the Russians declared intent to start taking down photos of nipples and everything else they deem an NSFW photo or movie ("But not art! And not non-female-presenting nipples!" they say1), and demonstrated that they're doing this with an AI that is clearly illustrating all the well-known reasons why doing this with a current-tech-level AI is problematic. It's quite the train wreck, and many fandomly people are responding by saying "we know how this story goes" and establishing community in safer places. This train wreck is also not quite the subject of this post, merely a cause for a cause of it.

What this post is actually about is, with people from Tumblr joining in droves: How does one get a Dreamwidth reading page that's full of interesting people writing interesting things? I started answering this on [personal profile] gallusrostromegalus's introductory post, but I figured it might be useful more widely.

I'd also like to hear other people's thoughts on the matter in comments -- this is just me tossing out some ideas for things that have worked for me, but I've had pretty narrow experience mostly from years ago, and fandom changes quickly sometimes.

Anyway, with that said, here's what I had to say in the comment:


I mostly found interesting people by commenting on other people's posts (which, unlike Tumblr, stays on their post rather than being a separate post on your page) and then following other people who made interesting comments on people's posts. That means there can be an advantage to going back and looking at older posts -- usually from the last day or so; things seem to taper off a bit after that unless a really interesting conversation starts -- to see if there are new comments. Also, if an interesting conversation starts or a post looks likely to spawn interesting conversation, you can click the "track this button" (which looks like a little bell in my default style; I'm not sure how universal that is) to get notifications when people make new comments on it.

Unlike Tumblr or Twitter, there isn't really any way to see all the comments that a specific person is making -- but you can see their "reading" page using a link like http://brooksmoses.dreamwidth.com/read (or click the "reading" link on their main journal page) to get an idea of what the people they're subscribed to post. That won't include private posts that you couldn't otherwise see, and if they use a lot of circles to have specific narrower reading pages it won't show you what those are, but it is still pretty useful in finding other interesting people.

Finally, on things I have actual experience with: I'd note that my friend [personal profile] jenett does weekly "salon" posts which are basically just forums for people to have conversations in the comments. The most recent one is at https://jenett.dreamwidth.org/1794110.html, to give you an idea -- and you could either join the conversation there if it looks interesting and looks like a group of people you want to join, or you and other people reading this could start your own if the idea looks useful but there's less community overlap.

On things I don't have experience with, Dreamwidth also has communities, which are essentially communal journals where multiple people can post -- those were a big thing in fandom in the LiveJournal days and I believe still are here now, but it's been a long time since I've had time to seek those out. There are also the "interests" lists in people's profiles, which become links to lists of other people with that interest listed.

[1] Yes, this proclamation on their part led to creation of at least one community where people are posting things like a photo of a naked nipple with two eyes and a very distinctive mustache inked onto the surrounding (rather large) breast to make a cheery face. Obviously.

Date: 2018-12-04 10:48 am (UTC)
jenett: Big and Little Dipper constellations on a blue watercolor background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jenett
I am definitely in favour of people either hanging out in my Salon posts, or starting their own - glad to talk to people about how it works/what I'm doing that works for me if anyone else is curious. (And thanks for highlighting them, [personal profile] brooksmoses)

Date: 2018-12-05 12:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cjsmith
They sound quite interesting! I hope to pop over from time to time.

Date: 2019-01-05 08:05 pm (UTC)
qos: (Homemade Queen)
From: [personal profile] qos
What a great idea!
I will drop by as well.

Date: 2018-12-04 12:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
The DW (and LJ, back when) communities are mostly "let's talk about this topic/set of related topics," which might be a particular fandom, or resources and support for political activism, or weight-lifting. (A lot of it is fandom-related, because of who is on DW and some of why people moved here from LJ or other places on the net.)

From there, I sometimes look to see what the person who was saying interesting things about politics has in their own journal.

There are also communities like "2017revival" for people who fled here from LJ and were looking for journals to read,

Date: 2018-12-05 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tshuma
Thanks! I do find that how few people I follow here, the impulse to check is infrequent, which then means I also post less often, which then contributes to the problem of there not being sufficient content to keep the engine going. I have subscribed to [personal profile] jenett so I can follow along in the salons.

Date: 2018-12-06 06:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cloudscudding
I like this! Useful!

Date: 2019-01-05 08:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] qos
Hi - I'm was a long-time LJ user who's been playing on Tumblr for the past few years, and have been inspired to come over to DW to rebuild my sense of online community. I have a few mutual follows on Tumblr who I have a sense of connection with, but in my experience Tumblr isn't designed for ongoing conversation as well as LJ and DW are.

(Clicked over after your response to my comment on Izzy's post.)
Edited Date: 2019-01-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
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